The Spice of Life: Rosanna John's Foray into Grenadian Cuisine

Join us as we embark on a flavorful journey with Rosanna John, a remarkable personality juggling the roles of an attorney, content creator, and co-founder of Spice Foodie Tours. Rosanna opens up about her intriguing journey, from her roots in Grenada to the legal corridors and eventually, the fascinating world of food blogging. Get ready for a riveting conversation about her international education, her love for Grenada's rich culinary landscape, and her unexpected foray into food blogging during the pandemic.

Here's an exciting opportunity to venture into the heart of Grenadian food culture with Rosanna. Hear her share her adventures of uncovering the culinary treasures of Grenada, from her favorite local eateries to the undiscovered gems. As she talks about juggling her legal career and her passion for food blogging, you can't help but admire her tenacity and passion. 

Then, we switch gears and take a deep dive into Grenada's Renegade Chocolate Festival. Rosanna paints a vivid picture of the festival's various events, including chocolate pairings and culinary dinners. Be it food enthusiasts, travel buffs, or anyone curious about the picturesque island of Grenada, this episode is a must-listen. Tag along for Rosanna's inspiring journey and gain unique insights into Grenada's vibrant food culture.

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Transcript

Carlene: 0:00

Hi, I'm Carlene and this is Nutmag Nation. I have with me in studio Rosanna John. She is a content creator, attorney at law in Denton's Grenada office and she has quite the resume. Hi, rosanna, hi, Carlene, how are you doing? I'm fine, thank you. How are you? I am well, thanks. So I actually found you through your social media, your top places to check out when you're in Grenada. But I guess, before we even talk about like places to eat and lots of great food to enjoy in Grenada, like just tell me a little bit about yourself. I know you're born, you grew up in Grenada, but where in Grenada did you grow up?

Rosana John : 0:51

My mother is Cuban and my father is Grenadian, so I grew up in the first 10 years of my life in Hermitage, st Patrick, and then we moved to St George's in an area called White Gun, so I lived there until I got married. Oh, okay, so that's where I'm from, from St Patrick and St George.

Carlene: 1:12

Nice. I'm from St George's Grand Anse. I have no idea where you mentioned the name of the pair. She said White.

Rosana John : 1:20

Well, the name of the neighborhood is White Gun. Many people are not familiar with that place by that name. Some might call it Upper Lucas Street, some might call it Lower Parade, but like the name on the conveyance is White Gun.

Carlene: 1:34

Okay, very nice. Obviously, you've done a lot of schooling. I see that you did your Bachelor's of Law from the University of West Indies and I also learned something new, like I mean, obviously you're an attorney at law, but you wanted to be a psychiatrist, so what made you decide to change your path?

Rosana John : 1:55

The reason I wanted to be a psychiatrist is because I used to look at a lot of law and order and that detective Wong, like I, was very fascinated with how he looked at the human mind. But as I grew older I realized that to be a psychiatrist well, at least then my understanding was that you had to be a traditional doctor. So doing traditional medicine, dealing with blood and all that sort of thing is just not my calling Right. So that's how I ventured more into the arts type field and that is how I ended up in law.

Carlene: 2:30

Oh okay, law and order. Yeah, I love law and order. I watched the original and, yeah, like you said, it's a great show, so it's very interesting. But I mean, the study of law itself is always ongoing. Tell me more about your experience going to law school and what that was like.

Rosana John : 2:47

So I did my undergraduate law degree at Cave Hill in Barbados. So that was excellent, not so much for the formal schooling, which was also good, but in terms of just meeting persons from all over the Caribbean. It was my first time having that experience that I had only lived in Grenada. So to meet all my Caribbean classmates, to see how similar we were, to see all the similar problems we were facing, it was truly a memorable experience getting to meet so many people from across the region, people that I continue to keep in contact with to this day. And then I went to law school in Trinidad with most of those same classmates, so that's over a five year period that we studied together.

Rosana John : 3:30

Then I did my master's in the United Kingdom at UCL. That was also a very enlightening experience because I got to meet persons from all over the world. So once again, it was my first time living outside of the Caribbean. So living in the UK was very different. It wasn't love at first sight living in London, but it grew on me and once again I loved that multicultural experience, that getting to see people from all over the world, how they celebrate their different religious holidays, all the different things that it was really eye opening for me and I really enjoyed it.

Carlene: 4:06

That's amazing as someone who grew up in Grenada and I guess it took you like your educational path took you outside the country, as someone who stayed there and didn't leave. What made you decide to do school outside of the country? I mean, obviously Grenada for those of you who don't know like Grenada, obviously really small island and we don't have that many campuses on the island. I mean, sgu is very popular. That's one of the main universities that people go to right.

Rosana John : 4:39

So so I really didn't have a choice. Because you can't study law in Grenada SGU doesn't offer that so Cape Hill was the closest for me. So I studied at Cape Hill in Barbados.

Carlene: 4:53

Very nice. And wow, Barbados, how was it studying there?

Rosana John : 4:56

I mean, obviously you talk about like your other experiences, but Well, the slogan there's never a dull moment in Barbados is really true, Like there was always something going on. So, although you know, I was very focused on my studies, when I did have the time, there was just so much to explore, so much to see, so much to do. I was there as recently as last year and it's like the food options, the entertainment options. It really is one of my favorite Caribbean islands.

Carlene: 5:26

Oh, out of all, okay, very cool.

Carlene: 5:28

Yeah, because I've seen your Instagram, your social media, that you know you travel a lot and you get to review a lot of different restaurants and great recommendations. By the way, I really appreciate your insight. You know what I mean. It's nice to see that I think over the years, grenada's like up and coming. I mean we get great accolades but it's still considered it is a small island. So you know, but you definitely have a great background. So tell me what got you into food blogging? I mean from like a lot of food.

Rosana John : 6:03

I've always loved food, but what got me into the blogging aspect of it was the pandemic. So in 2020, we all know what happened. We all know about the lockdowns and the quarantine and so forth. So I am a person who likes to plan. I'm a person who likes to know what the next step is.

Rosana John : 6:25

So, naturally, all the changes that were coming from the pandemic were not sitting well with me at all. So one of the coping mechanisms for me was cooking. So, you know, I had saved a lot of recipes and so that I just never had the time to cook. So, with the pandemic, I had a lot of time on my hands. So I decided you know what, let me add some structure to my day. I was working from home at the time, but I was like when I finish my task, I'm gonna do X recipe every day. So almost every day, I was doing a new recipe and I was taking pictures and videos and sharing it on my personal Instagram page.

Rosana John : 7:02

So I was getting mixed reviews about it. There were people who were loving it and encouraging me, and there were people who were like, ah, so much food every day, all day. You know, you're making me hungry. This is not the kind of thing I wanna keep seeing and wanna block you. So I decided, you know what, let me just make a separate space for persons who want to see food. So I started off predominantly showcasing my own cooking and, as you know, outside, as we say, reopened, I transitioned more into restaurant reviews. So that is how the page more or less re-evolved. So the three main focuses I should say it's my own cooking, which has become almost non-existent on the page now restaurant reviews and food for my travels.

Carlene: 7:48

On your Instagram you have the top five restaurants, or I mean you go through various things. So, for anyone who's listening, as a food blogger, someone who obviously has reviewed a lot of places in Grenada, what would you recommend? You know our national dish is oiled down. Is there a good place that you would suggest to get oiled down?

Rosana John : 8:14

So there are a few. The main issue I have with oiled down is that it's not a dish that can be easily bound and that is not available every day of the week everywhere. It's a dish that takes a lot of time, a lot of effort to cook, so it is not a dish that you would find easily, considering that it is the national dish. So I'm actually working on curating a list of where can you find oiled down on various days of the week.

Rosana John : 8:41

So you tend to be able to find it more Thursday, friday, saturdays or the main days that you tend to find them. So on Wednesdays there's a place called the Joints, so that's one of my favorite places to get oiled down. So, from Brudel, he does it Wednesdays and Fridays, so he's one of the most consistent vendors I've found that does oiled down on a consistent basis. So, brudel and Lagoon Road, his place is called the Joints. It's a list of before foodland supermarket if you're heading from town direction to Grandance Right. There are also a few other places that do it. There's flavors taffé in golf course. They do it on a Saturday. There's good food in Grenville. They do it on Thursdays. No, yes, thursdays and Saturdays, I believe.

Rosana John : 9:32

And how could I not mention Antsnes? Antsnes is my main oil-dung provider right now with the Spice Foodie Tour. So she's currently off island, but generally she's one of the few places that you can get oil-dung almost every day. So she is based in Paradise, st Andrew, miss Shirley, and she also has an outlet in town, but I don't have as much details about that as yet. I believe it's on the Caranage, close to Anders, but currently it's closed. But when she comes back I'm definitely going to do a feature on her so you can learn more about her oil-dung. She does a wide variety of meats in her oil-dung so traditionally oil-dung is made with pork and chicken, but we know people have a wide variety of dietary restrictions and preferences so she does one of the widest ranges I have come across in terms of options you can have in your oil-dung, from vegan to seafood. She does a wide variety of oil-dung.

Carlene: 10:33

Wow, the fact that you know the best places to check out when you're visiting is amazing. I'm still learning. You're still yeah, yeah, yeah.

Rosana John : 10:42

There's so many what I call hidden gems, places that people from the area know but are not widely known. Just this week I found out about a place in Santsu Sea by a guy called Tony. I haven't had his oil-dung yet, but it's on my list to try out. So I'm sure there are many other spots across the island that I just don't know about. But I want to learn and I want to explore and I want to share it with everybody else.

Carlene: 11:07

Yeah, you know we are in the digital age of technology and that's how you get a lot of things across through social media. You know what I mean as someone who is a food blogger, so I guess you're also the co-founder of Spice Foodie Tours. What is that? Is it like a tour? I'm visiting Grenada and I basically want to check out some good places to eat while I'm visiting. Is that what you do? What exactly does Spice Foodie Tours do?

Rosana John : 11:36

So it's a food tour where we curate food experiences. Right now we have one signature tour called the Taste of Labi, so it focuses on seven food spots within the parish of Saint Andrew. So we are looking to expand our offerings to different parishes and so forth, but right now our primary offering is in the parish of Saint Andrew. So we start off by having breakfast from cookies. So she is a baker from Saint Andrew. Her bakery is in Grenville, so we have a traditional Canadian breakfast from her. So we're doing two things like bakes, saltfish, fishcakes. Then we go to Tri Island chocolate where, although it is physically located in Bolio, the proprietor, aaron Sylvester he's originally from Moissamie is from Croce, st Andrew, so he is a chocolatère, so we get to taste the different chocolates that his factory makes. We have cocoa tea there, then we usually do coconut water in Balthazar Junction.

Rosana John : 12:44

We do doubles in Grenville from Wangi or Ryan Ryan's doubles in Grenville. We do bussup shot in Grenville as well from Boogie Bee, the artist Boogie Bee. He does a finger licking bussup shot. It is so delicious. So some people say, oh well, doubles and bussup are not traditional Grenadian dishes. So the tour isn't about traditional Grenadian dishes per se, but showcasing the variety of dishes in Grenada or that are now forming part of Grenadian cuisine. So that's why we have these two dishes included as well. Both are very tasty. And then we usually would have corn in Paradise Junction. We would have that by Suzanne. She has been making corn before I was born, so she does boiled corn, she does roasted corn and we would have oil lung by Michelle Lee up in Anstnest.

Carlene: 13:41

Always delicious.

Rosana John : 13:43

Definitely worth a restaurant Anstnest.

Carlene: 13:46

Oh yeah, I was just wondering where is that? In Grenada Also in Paradise, oh.

Rosana John : 13:51

OK, oh.

Carlene: 13:52

OK.

Rosana John : 13:54

And then we go to Daniela, who makes a traditionally baked sweet potato pudding. So that pudding or porn as we say is baked traditionally. So it's making a traditional steel drum. So at the top you would have wood and at the bottom you would have a cold pot. So fire on top, fire below, so that gives a nice depth of flavor. She also does a bread food which is very tasty. So you know, these are not big businesses, these are not businesses that everybody generally knows. So we're all about, you know, community-based tourism, taking people to see parts of Winita that are not traditionally highlighted. You know we have more than Grand Ams Beach. So that is why we are very keen on the smaller businesses, the small man, and showcasing what they have to offer and that Winidian tourism is not just the sun and the sand and the sea.

Carlene: 14:53

Right? Well, I mean, that's what we're known for, you know the sun and the sand and the sea. I'm Carleen and this is Not my Nation. I'm speaking to Rosanna John, a food blogger, attorney at law, and I just want to know, like attorneys are very busy, I mean you have a very busy schedule, obviously, so how do you make time to do both managing your time to work with your clients that you're helping and also doing your food blogging your blogging, they call it, you know.

Rosana John : 15:22

Yes, it's not easy. I'm not going to pretend that it is, at least at this point. I don't have children, so I guess that gives me a little bit of extra time compared to other people. So it's just in terms of prioritizing what I love. So the food blogging is a major hobby of mine. I guess it's a distresser. It's a way that I distract myself from the other stresses of life. So it's something I'm passionate about and I just find the time right now to do it. Yeah.

Carlene: 15:55

So I guess you've created quite the following and now is it something that you also get paid to do, or is it still just something that is considered your passion?

Rosana John : 16:05

So it's a hobby for now. The food blogging. So the way I guess I've been able to monetize it slightly is through the food tours Because of that following I've created. Now that I have a tour, people want to try it, but I can't say I have made money directly from food blogging. It's just something I do for fun. The restaurants don't pay me, they don't compensate me, sometimes they don't even thank me. I just go pay for my food and share my experiences.

Carlene: 16:34

It's amazing that you're doing that you know what I mean, I think just to showcase Grenada and all the dishes that the island has. So you've obviously been to Fish Friday Many years ago. Oh, so you haven't been in a while. Let's talk about the national dishes of Grenada. I know you've done like the top Is it the top five? So let's talk about that for those people that don't know the national dishes of Grenada, if you could just highlight the national dishes and maybe a few places that you would recommend.

Rosana John : 17:09

So our main dish is oiled on, so that is the official national dish, so I already spoke a bit about that and where she tries with a one pot dish. The reason it's called oiled on is because it is cooked with coconut milk. So it's a series of provisions and meat cooked in one pot. So that's the remnant of our West African one pot tradition. And when the coconut milk evaporates, the oil from the coconut milk is left at the bottom of the pot. So that's where the name comes from. So it's a dish with coconut milk, turmeric, lots of vegetables, you know kalalu ground provision. So very, very tasty. Not always very visually appealing when you see everything mixed up as one, but it's definitely a dish you need to try when you come to Grenada as it is the national dish.

Rosana John : 18:09

Other things you should try when you're visiting Grenada that we're on island, so seafood is a big part of our culture, of our heritage, so seafood is definitely something you should check out. So fresh fish, lobster when it's in season it's not always in season, so having seafood is something I highly recommend as well. A traditional Canadian breakfast. So you know your beaks, your saltfish, your smoke herring. I got a good place to get that is at Mount Morris Breakfast, so you get the whole culture with it as well. It's usually held once a month.

Rosana John : 18:44

But you should be able to get a traditional Canadian breakfast anywhere. Patrick's Home Style Cookin' is another great place to get a local breakfast. On Wall Street you can get it. It's not something difficult to get. So, like those are some main things, I would recommend you try some sort of water. So water is our name for brats Brats so in terms of like lambi water. So lambi is what we refer to as conk or is referred to as conk. So having lambi water if you're allergic to seafood, having corn soup or some type of soup is also a big part of our cultural tradition.

Carlene: 19:24

What else is there? I was just thinking of everything that you mentioned, right? What about the ice cream? You know what I think we should talk about ice cream. I'm not a huge fan of it, but whenever I go to Grenada, I always like to have rum and raisin ice cream because of the way that it's made. I find, like you know, there's not too many additives that they add, like here in North America, like I'm in Toronto, and you know, when you get rum and raisin ice cream, it's not just the rum and raisin, it's all the other things that they add to it, which makes it different when you're going to, you know, like a little ice cream shop in town when you're there. You know what I mean. So do you have a favorite ice cream place that you like to go to?

Rosana John : 20:06

So for rum and raisin I would recommend Sugar and Spice. They're like the oldest ice cream company in Grenada and have a well-known for their rum and raisin ice cream. But my favorite place to get ice cream is actually from Miss Barbara. Miss Barbara is up at Once Again Paradise in Andrew. She operates usually on a Sunday so she sets up her ice cream can so it's home-turned, traditionally made ice cream. She does a variety of local flavors. I love the sour syrup, the passion fruit, cherry, so a variety of seasonal flavors. So my favorite type of ice cream is the homemade kind in the can. You usually get it at Church Harvest as well, so Church Harvest is like an excellent place to get that type of ice cream.

Carlene: 20:55

Yeah, that's very traditional in the fact that you said she sets it up and everything like that, right? So yeah, when you're in town though, like you know, you were mentioning the Caranage and like for those people that don't know, like in town, that's where a lot of the hustle and the bustle, you know a lot of people go when they're visiting, and do you have few places that you like to check out when you're in town? Like to try?

Rosana John : 21:19

In town. My favorite place to go for lunch is BB's Crabback. Like I like to do their lunch special. It's especially the fish lunch special. It's very tasty. I like how they do the fish. I love the rice and peas and coconut milk. It's just a very tasty meal and it's one of their more affordable options. Their lunch special Right, but everything I've had at BB's is tasty, so that's like my favorite place to have lunch. Okay, and I've got this.

Carlene: 21:51

I don't think I've tried that when I've been, so definitely have to check that out. So, as a food blogger, contact creator, what do you want people to know about Grenada? I mean, like you've been living, you born and raised in Grenada and you are pretty much you live there now, so you definitely have a different perspective. Like, what do you think as a tourist? What do you think makes Grenada so great?

Rosana John : 22:16

Well, grenada was recently designated as the world's first culinary capital. We were recognized for our rich cultural and culinary traditions. We have unique things that other places don't have, such as Saracah, which is a festival of thanksgiving to our ancestors, where food is cooked in villages such as Riversale and La Poterie and it's cooked in honor of our ancestors, shared out for free. So we have unique things like that here. So, in terms of what I would want persons who don't live here or who are visiting here to know is that we have a lot to offer while we are very small. Do not be fooled, there's a lot to do in Grenada.

Rosana John : 22:56

I think Grenada is an ideal tourist destination for persons who like adventure and who want to relax, because we have a variety of natural sites. On spoils, we still have that untouched feel that a lot of Caribbean islands don't have. We're not as commercialized. Persons are still very friendly, very approachable, it's very safe. So if you want to get that I don't want to say authentic, not trying to grocery that any other Caribbean island, but that quintessential Caribbean vibe I think we still have it, we still have been able to preserve it, and that you should definitely check out Grenada for food, for sites for spice masks. We have juve on, like any other place in the world, so we do have very unique things. So, although all Caribbean islands do have similarities, I think that Grenada does have something special to offer.

Carlene: 23:54

Oh yeah, definitely. There's so many sites to see, very many beaches to check out. When you're down there, you know we're in September and like it's starting to get cold, and so you know, just, I find people like here in Toronto, like when the weather gets cold they like to go somewhere warm. So, other than the places that you've already mentioned, is there any other place that you haven't mentioned that you think? Like if people are planning to go away to Grenada to get away from the cold, where should they go when they land?

Rosana John : 24:30

Well, as soon as they get off the plane, they should go to Esther's bar, Because you can have some local if they drink alcohol, some rum punch or some fruit punch or some local freshly made drink. So that's the first place you should hit when you land.

Carlene: 24:47

Maybe this is just me, because I love KFC in Grenada, because it has a little bit more spice than here in Toronto.

Carlene: 24:56

I don't know like if you've been to any other islands or because you haven't mentioned anything like fast food, right, all of its local food and stuff but what do you think about KFC in the Caribbean versus anywhere? I mean, you obviously did your schooling in the UK so I'm sure you tried food when you were there. So what do you think I mean in terms of KFC and the way we put a little bit of spice on the chicken?

Rosana John : 25:22

But I hope I don't get my Grenadian passport revoked. But when I travel I don't gravitate towards KFC at all. So I guess I don't have a comparison because I have not ordered it outside of Grenada. But people have kept saying that Grenada's KFC is unique. But I really can't say.

Carlene: 25:43

Right, right, yeah, I mean there's more expansion. I guess you could tell me a little bit more. If there's more fast food, that's there, because I mean when you go in town like other than your local restaurants and everything, there's always a lineup at KFC, I find so that's true, but it does have a variety of fast food option.

Rosana John : 26:03

Sometimes I joke and I say that our national dish is actually chicken and chips, because that's one thing that you can get every day, all day, at all hours. It's always available. So, especially like on Wall Street, on different street vendors, or chicken and chips is like something that's very easy to get. Things like boiled corn or, more so, roasted corn, barbeque chicken, like these are all, I guess, street foods, fast fast foods that you can get quite easily across the island. So you know, you can be in Grenada on a budget. Not everything has to be a gourmet meal. There are many affordable food options, especially if you stick to the local items. They tend to be more affordable than the international cuisine because we do have a variety of Venezuelan, italian, asian. We have quite a variety of food options in Grenada outside of the traditional local food.

Carlene: 26:57

That's true, definitely true. I mean, it's been a while for me, so I'm learning through your eyes, to highlight everything you said. You know we've talked about food in general, but like desserts, like I saw a recent blog of yours where you posted I can never say this right, kumar is a Kumar, yeah one told me no, someone told me from Trinidad that that's not how you say it, so, oh, oh well, I would have liked it, but yeah, that's one of the things that we have.

Carlene: 27:26

And then, you know, sugar cake. What else is really good, like, I mean here.

Rosana John : 27:31

Current rolls. Current rolls turnovers. I guess the other day I was asking why do turnovers all have to be that sort of move purplish color, like everybody just decided it has to be that color, like who decided this Right. But yeah, and tamarind balls are one of my favorites.

Carlene: 27:49

Tamarind balls. Yes, yes, Tamarind balls, yeah.

Rosana John : 27:51

So all these things just remind me of church harvest. They're getting all these nice Canadian confectionery, but you can get them in supermarkets like they're quite available.

Carlene: 28:00

Yeah, no, definitely you don't have to go anywhere special but that the desserts and like the drinks, like you know, if you're going for we're talking about food, but if you're going for a saw, fish and baked and if you're looking for some hot cocoa, I know like cocoa is really good too, right.

Rosana John : 28:17

Yeah, so cocoa tea or bush tea as well. So you know we call all sorts of ginger tea and that sort of thing. We call it bush tea Once it's not a tea bag type tea. You know variety of. You know cinnamon, lemongrass, all those different teas are very traditional and very popular. In terms of other drinks that are popular as well CMOS. So Canadians tend to drink CMOS in terms of it as a creamy drink with condensed milk, but people are becoming more aware of the. You know the true nutritional value of CMOS. It's not just a thickener and that. So they're moving away from using so much milk and sugar in it so that you can get the full nutritional value. Then you have things such as mobby, ginger, bear tharil. You know Christmas is coming up, so these beverages will be highlighted even more.

Carlene: 29:15

Definitely, so where can people find you on Instagram if they want to follow your blog? Check out the places that you recommend.

Rosana John : 29:24

So they can find me at radical rose eats. So radical is with a K, so it's R-A-D-I-K-A-L rose eats on Instagram, and also Spice Foodie Tours, so that's the name. On Instagram as well, you'll find out about all the latest information on our tours. We share information about our vendors, so even if you don't have the time to do a full tour, if you could check out one of the vendors, they will be very grateful. So those two places are the main places to find me. Both are on Instagram.

Carlene: 29:58

Yeah, it's amazing. Thank you so much. So you know what. There's one thing I want to say there's so many places to check out while you're in Grenada, and I know the chocolate factory. I see that you posted that you know the Grenada Chocolate Fest, like they celebrated their 10th anniversary this year in May. What's the history with the chocolate? I've been there like a few times. Every time I go to Grenada, I always try and check out something that I haven't seen before and tell me more about that festival or even like the chocolate factory where they make cocoa and you know chocolate.

Rosana John : 30:33

So the chocolate festival is held annually. It was founded by Maria Fielding and it is a celebration of all things chocolate. So every year there's a different theme. So this past year the theme was rum and chocolate. So the focus was on the fusion of the two and various experiences were curated around that.

Rosana John : 30:56

So we did chocolate factory tours, because Grenada has at least five chocolate factories. We did tours of rum distilleries. So we did a tour of Renegade Rum Factory and rivers on the same day. So that was very eye-opening. To look at how rum was made a hundred years ago with the hydraulic wheel and we are the I think we are the only one in the Western Hemisphere who still have a functioning wheel and then to see the modern technology that Renegade uses in terms of all the computer screens and all the gadgets. So to see the evolution of how rum has been distilled was quite interesting.

Rosana John : 31:36

We did pairings of the Renegade Rum with various chocolate truffles. There was also a sales care chocolate event, so learning how to make different chocolate masks and things like that. Different chocolate dinners, so using chocolate in food, so a seven course chocolate culinary dinner. So just a variety of events centered around chocolate. The festival lasts for about a week and a half, so there's definitely something for everyone in there. They have events focused on children, so there are a lot of events in that chocolate festival, so I highly recommend coming during that time. It is held annually, usually around May. So check. They have a website. So just look up Renegade Chocolate Festival and you should be able to get information on the upcoming one.

Carlene: 32:25

Well, thank you so much for sharing your insight on just food and Grenada. It's amazing the amount of things that you've done since 2020. I think, like the pandemic has definitely created, like you know, things that, like we didn't have time to do For me. I actually created this podcast in 2020 and I stopped doing it, but someone ignited the flame, you know, and I'm so happy that you made the time to come on the show to talk about, you know, your experiences as a food blogger. Obviously, your main career is you're an attorney at law, so I guess if anyone in Grenada needs a lawyer, I guess you have a website as well.

Rosana John : 33:08

Yes, so I work with Dentons, which is a global law firm, so I practice primarily in real estate and commercial matters.

Carlene: 33:16

Basically someone. If they're buying real estate or if they already have real estate and they need assistance with that, you could help them. Yes, Perfect. Well, thank you again, Rosanna, for being a gas on-out magnation. You have a great one. Thank you so much.

Rosana John : 33:33

Thank you so much for having me, Carlene.